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Albert Roelofse (van der Werke) van der Werken (abt. 1675 - 1756)

Albert Roelofse (Albert Roeloffse) van der Werken formerly van der Werke aka Roelofse, Roelofsen, Roelefsen
Born about in New York, Province of New Yorkmap [uncertain]
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Husband of — married 6 Aug 1704 in Albany, New Yorkmap
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Died at about age 81 in Albany, Albany County, Province of New Yorkmap
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Albert Roeloffse (van der Werke) van der Werken was a New Netherland Descendant 1674-1776.
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Biography

"Van Der Werken, Albert Roeloffse, m. Dirkje van Alstein, July 15. 1704. Ch: bp.; Roeloff Gerritse, Oct. 14, 1705; Martinus, May 16, 1708; Johannes, Jan.29, 1710; Roeloff, Feb.10, 1712; Johannes, Jan.31, 1713; Abraham, July 30, 1715; Jacobus, April 21, 1717; Jacob, May 3, 1719; Albert, March 1, 1721." [1]

Church Records

  • Marriage: 1704. July 15. Reg. Ma. Aug. 6. Albert Roelofse Van der Werke, y.m., b. at A., l. in A. Co., and Dirkje Van Aalstein, y.d., b. at K., l. in Col. R.[2]
  • 1705. Oct. 14. Roelof, Gerrit, of Albert Van der Werke and Dirkje Van Aalstein. Wit.: Roelof Gerritse and wife Geertruy. [3]
  • 1708. May 16. Martinus of Albert Roelofse Van der Werke and Dirkje Van Aalstein. Wit.: Cornelis and Marrytje Van Aalstein. [3]
  • 1710. Jan. 29. Johannes, of Albert Van der Werke and Dirkje Van Aalstein. Wit.: Jobs. Van Aalstein, Geertje Vroman.[3]
  • 1712. Feb. 10. Roelof, of Albert Roelofse and Dirkjen Van Aalstee. Wit.: Karel Broewee, Aaltjen Roelofs. [3]
  • 1713. Jan. 31. Joannes, of Albert and Dirckie Van der Werke. Wit.: Jacob and Abigael Van Aalst.[3]
  • 1715. July 30. Abraham, of Albert and Dirckie Roelefsen. Wit.: Pieter Walderingh, Trvntie Van Aalsteyn. [3]
  • 1717. Apr. 21. Jacobus, of Albert and Dirckie Roelofsen. Wit.: Jesse and Catryna Freest.
  • 1719. May 3. Jacob, of Albert and Dirckie Roelefsen. Wit.: Cornelis Bogaard, Geertruy V. den Berg.[3]
  • 1721. March 1. Albert, of Albert and Dirckie Roelefsen. Wit.: Samuel and Maria Pruym.[3]

Sources

  1. ↑ Contributions for the genealogies of the first settlers of the ancient county of Albany, from 1630 to 1800: Contributions;J.Munsell1872-Archive.org Page 123, Albany N.Y.
  2. ↑ Records of the Reformed Dutch Church of Albany, New York, 1683–1809, Excerpted from Year Books of the Holland Society of New York. Part 2, page 4
  3. ↑ 3.0 3.1 3.2 3.3 3.4 3.5 3.6 3.7 Records of the Reformed Dutch Church of Albany. Part 2

Acknowledgments

  • Thank you to Laurie Scheeler for creating WikiTree profile Van der Werken-2 through the import of Laurie Scheeler family tree.ged on May 7, 2013.
  • Thanks to Katie Pyle for starting this profile. Click the Changes tab for the details of contributions by Katie and others.






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Hawkins-9192 Paula (Hawkins) Reinke
Hi there, Please note there are Suggestions that needs your attention please.

http://wikitree.sdms.si/function/WTWeb/Suggestions.htm?UserID=21100305

posted by Paula (Hawkins) Reinke
Pyle-388 Katie Pyle
Van der Werken-39 and Van der Werken-2 appear to represent the same person because: Same person
posted by Katie Pyle
Smith-62120 Ellen Smith
The transcriptions that I was referring to were transcriptions of church records by the Holland Society of New York that were published in the early years of the 20th century (after the publications of Jonathan Pearson). The Holland Society was focused on transcribing the records; unlike Pearson, the Holland Society didn't attempt to add genealogical interpretations. So the Holland Society transcriptions are more likely to tell us what the original records said, while Jonathan Pearson provides genealogical insights (not always correct) that can't always be found when you only look at baptism and marriage records.
posted by Ellen Smith
Quackenbush-118 Carrie Quackenbush
There's no student; Pearson is talking about himself in the third person. He's also not talking about church records (at least prior to 1683); he's talking about the court records, deeds, and other documents of Albany.

Pearson is one of those authors that you have to use with caution, for example with my Quackenbushes he conflates two different Wouters, one that married a Cornelia and one that married a Neeltje https://archive.org/stream/contributionsfor00pearuoft#page/88/mode/2up/ They are two different generations, and I don't even think they were father and son but uncle and nephew.

posted by Carrie Quackenbush
Schellenberger-149 Astrid (Schellenberger) Spaargaren
Hi Ellen, Thank you so much for your input. The only one that claimes the transcripitions are from 1630-1800 so far I found is of Professor Jonathan Pearson in his "Contributions for the genealogies of the first settlers of the ancient county of Albany" . If I interpret the preface right a student subscribed the churchbooks. So far comparing to other transcriptions I did not find any error. But on the son of Albert - baptized and named Roeloff Gerritse. And Roeloff's right name should be Roeloff Albertsz. That s why I posted my question marks.

If there are no records before 1683 (and I saw no earlier at other transscriptions) were did this student of Proffesor Pearson find the, as it seems very accurate, all info for the children of Roeloff Gerritsz. Or did he find that back from later marriage and baptize records....... But it seems we can be sure of a son Gerrit Albertsz. :)

I love these kind of puzzles.

A.

posted by Astrid (Schellenberger) Spaargaren
Smith-62120 Ellen Smith
There are no Albany church records from before 1683. There's no indication of the basis for saying he was born in 1675 (probably a guess) or that he was born in New Amsterdam. If there's no baptism record for him in New Amsterdam, there's not much of a reason to assert that he was born there.
posted by Ellen Smith
Schellenberger-149 Astrid (Schellenberger) Spaargaren
Thank you Ellen. That helps! :) Yes I 'm checking as many transcriptions as possible, comparing them to be as accurate as possible. But I could not find a transcription from the baptism of 1675 so far.
posted by Astrid (Schellenberger) Spaargaren
Smith-62120 Ellen Smith
You're right, Astrid. We don't have access to the original records, but the best available transcription of that first baptism record (which I added to the profile) shows the names of two boys, Roelof and Gerrit.
posted by Ellen Smith
Schellenberger-149 Astrid (Schellenberger) Spaargaren
In the citing is the first born child named Roeloff Gerritse. That is uncommon. I wish I could see the original as it might be that there are two sons baptized here; Named Roeloff and one Gerrit. (Twins?)
posted by Astrid (Schellenberger) Spaargaren
Schellenberger-149 Astrid (Schellenberger) Spaargaren
Removed Unsourced template. But one source is not enough.......... :)
posted by Astrid (Schellenberger) Spaargaren

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